Well, this is my first posting here, but I hope to be around from time to time as I perceive this website as being very usefull… Xanthan gum does not dissolve in oils, it rather disperse in oil. Hi dia I make a liquid drink how could I use xanthan gum. So ditto Seabee’s question, and add: Can liquid hand soap be made from a concentrated liquid dish soap + XG mixed into oil (almond) + water + essential oils for scent? The more xanthan gum you use, the denser your baked good will be. Waiting for your reply. Thank you. I will try this thank you so much. If you do not have oil, use small amount of glycerin. Learn how your comment data is processed. Im trying to make facial cleanser with cocoyl taurate, but dont know how and when to add that surfactant. If you are not fast or cautious enough, lumps create as the particles are being trapped in the gel. Hope its clear to understand. In these blends I use varying mixtures of cinnamon, clove, cedarwood, vanilla, orange, lemon, grapefruit, peppermint, eucalyptus, and lavender essential oils. I have a beautiful bar of pure castile soap- 95% olive oil, to which I add water, vitamin e as a preservative and essential oils to make a liquid soap. Your insight would be greatly appreciated. 8-> Xanthan is slow to mix, so I always do it with a food processor or blender. Is it potassium soap? Dehydroxanthangum 1.75%. Any thoughts or suggestions? Any suggestion for me? If using glycerin, then after mixing it with xanthan gum, do i have to add warm water or cold water? Hello Evic! Hi Anthony, yes, some of the emulsifiers have no trouble with the one-pot technique. What do you think? So you’ll need to try the formula to ensure it will work for your hair. Hi Cindy (and sorry for late reply, I have 2 month old baby girl, so have been busy answering…), could you share maybe the recipe? Any suggestions? but i have this question. It gets tricky when you have water in oil emulsions, though. If you need traditional “slip” in a gel product, I’d suggest using xanthan gum if you have to pick between the two. This method works… but, I tell you what – I do not have patience, nor time for that… the small doses are really really small and xanthan gum is very light so if you try to dissolve 1-2%, or even more, it is a fairly large volume to work with. Im going to try on sodium carbormer and carbormer 940 (lunamer 60p). meaning can can all the ingredients be mixed in 1 pot..? I would like to start a business for all natural self-care products for men and I expect to have 5 different scents that serve as themed lines for my products (soap, beard oil, pomade, body wash/shampoo, etc.). XG has been a huge source of frustration for me, and I thought I’d tried everything – except, of course, glycerine. The hold from xanthan gum gels is more flexible in the hair. Juan, hi, please suggest with following: It can be also more difficult when you make larger batches. Do I mix the xanthan with the glycerin, then add that mixture, at the end, once all else is mixed? Can you provide step by step details for your shampoo (the one that made your hair silky not the salt version) Thanks for the tip. Stir, stir, stir, with a whisk, not too hard as to form bubbles but firm enough to blend well (for about 10-15mins). Hi Sunil – if you cannot add oil, than you can use glycerin. If the xanthan gum particles are not well dispersed before hitting the liquid, they will clump and take longer to hydrate. this will be around food but not ingested. Thank you. To prevent ice crystals in ice cream: Whisk in 1 tablespoon to 1 quart base before churning. Imo, I do not think so. is there a particular in making lotion without heating oil phase ans water separately.? THANK YOU! .5% Xanthan Gum (this is your holding ingredient, HEC doesn't provide much hold, If you want more clumping for your curls, keep the HEC the same but reduce the Xanthan to .25%) 8% Glycerin (you can use less but I would use less than 5%, maybe 3%, it keeps the gel from flaking) omg. Hi, can xanthan gum harden solid bar soap? pls guide 😂 i tried your method and finally succeed. Can give an estimation for ratios of glycerin and Xantham gum? Hi..I make amla shikakai reetha shampoo..After soaking it in water the whole day the next day I boil the whole water..My question is when do I add xanthan gum mixed with glycerine in the shampoo..And how do I add it to make the shampoo thick..After adding it should I just stir the shampoo or use the blender to thicken the shampoo..ppllsss help. The thickening, stabilizing and emulsifying agent xanthan gum added to foods such as ice cream, cream cheese, yogurt, or salad dressing acts as as a thickening, stabilizing and emulsifying agent. I never had success with Xanthan gum in thickening liquid soap. Hi Evik! It makes a thick gel that is less sticky and flows a little better. Xanthan gum is polysaccharide created through fermentation of sugar (glucose, sucrose, or lactose) b… Thank you Anna, if only everyone posted also what did not work, the world would be more beautiful place to cosmetics and soap makers 🙂. I did not really measure the proportion of xanthan gum vs glycerine. Nobody. But with ur tip I have been saved and now I make for my friends and family,who knows maybe for the market too,becoz they all love my product and always ask for more. – Lauryl Glucoside (Plantacare 1200) – 5% You need a proper emulsifier to do that. All of the plant based waxes that i have tried just don’t have the same flexibility that beeswax has when it has hardened. I was reached the point of desperation… until I found today this post. Hi Abhishek, I am afraid I cannot be of help here, never attempted this! Looking forward to your reply, thanks so much for your help! Xanthangum .75%. And what is the ratio of Xanthum Gum to Glycerin you propose? THANK YOU, simply THANK YOU! Use xanthan gum as a binder if you’re vegan or have an egg allergy. So HOW do you do this? Mix until a gel is formed about 3 minutes. The consistency comes out beautiful except yes, I do experience little gel like lumps once I’ve let it rest…. hi Evik. Stir until it becomes jelly like consistency. Do not forget to take notes of how much of what you added (it is easier to do so if you measure by weight). I have used salt to thicken the castile, and I get good results … until I add the eo/polysorabte UGH – it turns back to a watery liquid 🙁 my EOs are 1-2%. So I was wondering about using CMC instead as the thickening agent… Then adding all the other surfactants followed by other ingredients to the gel with slow stirring for about 15 minutes. To create xanthan gum, the Xanthomonas campestris bacterium is allowed to ferment on a sugar. I don’t really like recipes with “kitchen” measures, since they are not very precise and it gets difficult to rescale them, however, you can do two things: cut on the almond/olive oil and increase coconut oil or beeswax – you can start with using 1/4 cup almond oil instead of 1/2 cup. However, in soap there is not enough water for xanthan gum to get gelly. Because i have to heat the oil too. Add in the xanthan gum slowly, with lots of stirring or agitation, into cold or heated deionized water until the solution is clear and begins to thicken. 1.how can i make glycerine thicker using xanthum gum, guar gun, or anything else WITHOUT loosing glycerin transparency and other properties. Simply omit the eggs and whisk 1 to 2 tsp (2 1/2 to 5 g) of xanthan gum into your dry ingredients. Thanks so much for sharing your method. Thank you so much! Read More. What is your liquid base? Before reading this post, i just add xathan gum directly to the water, and it was a mess. Now I’ll try your method and I’ll keep you posted. So if I understand, you wish to thicken your lotion? Learn real cooking skills from your favorite food experts, The iconic magazine that investigates how and why recipes work, American classics, everyday favorites, and the stories behind them, Experts teach 200+ online courses for home cooks at every skill level, Kid tested, kid approved: Welcome to America’s Test Kitchen for the next generation. 1/4 cup distilled water yaduvara dasa. It’s too runny so I want to thicken and stabilize the PB. I had hoped a veg gum would be my solution. Do let me know if I can use carboxymethylcellulose I have read about it, but not sure how to use it. my priority is to make a natural soap product so I am thinking of adding XG, Gum Arabic or corn starch. So I can add my xanthum gum to my melted shea butter coconut oil liquid warm mixture?? … you are trying to thicken a shampoo, liquid soap, or anything else that foams! However, this might be because it had 40% of coconut oil and from what I read now soapmakers say that if soap has more than 5% coconut oil the salt won’t thicken it. Could you try without? 1/4 cup beeswax I’d be really kind if you could help. Xanthan gum is most commonly used in home kitchens to help reinforce structure in gluten-free baked goods. 1/4 cup liquid castilel soap Evik … you’ve saved my sanity. Xanthan Gum Gel In Packet. But, the cannister is due to my own initiative. I didn’t have yet time to pursue my research on thickening soap by other alternatives, however, I believe your problem may be the you adding the citrus EOs, which have overall “thinning” effect. Add in the Leucidal, or another natural preservative if you plan on keeping the gel for more than a few days. Thanks so much, Courtney. Great Work. Directions. so to increase thickness of product i am using xanthum gum so what shall be solution to this? …your guide to making natural soap and other bath & body products! It is very difficult to help if I do not know the exact recipe.. Combine and mix dry ingredients gently by hand. Any suggestion advice comments are greatly appreciated! Will the xanthan/glycerin combo thicken the shampoo, or do I have to heat it in order to activate its thickening qualities? You might consider using maybe salt to thicken it…. I tried to thicken some of those products (detergents basically) by using xanthan gum but failed because I couldn’t dissolve it well. Then, indeed, there is also a question of the salt curve – it thickens up to certain % of concentration and above the solution thins up again. In my frustration with me using for the first time Xantham Gum, stumbled into the same problem as everybody else. 3 cups of water (does not have to be boiling) and mix in a teaspoon or less of xanthan gum in it. The powder is not desolving! Thank you for sharing your experience with us. When you say use oil, do you mean any oil? This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I have every oil u can think of ans vegetable glycerin. Transfer gel to airtight container and refrigerate for up to 1 month. The result is a gel that is then dried and milled to create the powder substance. and then incorporate that mixture into the rest? I tried this tonight with guar gum on a shampoo formulation that does not have an oil phase. I’LL DEFINITELY TRY THE SALT AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR EXPERT ADVICE. Omg thank you are the bomb.com i make my own products and everytime i thicken my shampoo its a mess. Proceed to mix water and add the glycerin to the water and continue to. ... Keep a list of all your medications with you, and share the list with your doctor and pharmacist. Thank you so much. So I was wondering about using CMC instead as the thickening agent… Get FREE ACCESS to every recipe and rating from this season of our TV show. Xanthan gum was discovered by Allene Rosalind Jeanes and her research team at the United States Department of Agriculture in the early 1960s. Mix your xanthan gum with glycerin or oil – THE WINNER! (I’m new to all this, it’s going to be my first experiment) and hence hope it doesn’t go wrong. Also, I don’t think xanthan gum is a good option for thickening soap – it gets slimy and a bit sticky and not thick enough anyway (as its thickening action depends on the amount of water). Hi Osman, well, thickening soap is very tricky. If you have oil in your formulation, dissolve xanthan gum it the oil phase. Ratios would be great so I don’t ruin too many of the bars! 1/2 tsp argon oil As soon as I saw the idea I ran to try it. Hand blender or chopper makes the flax gel more runny because of its sharp blades. Hi evik, Add an oil to your mix and don’t be heavy-handed during application to stop or to help combat flaking in hair. Or should I have just mixed the water and surfactants, dropped ph, then added the guar/glycerine mix? Xanthan gum is a common additive in a variety of foods such as ice cream, yogurt, sauces, and dressings, as well as gluten-free baked goods.It is a corn-based, fermented product that is made by fermenting corn sugar with a microbial called "Xanthomonas campestris." Increase speed to medium and process for 2 minutes. – Glycerin Add in the xanthan gum slowly, with lots of stirring or agitation, into cold or heated deionized water until the solution is clear and begins to thicken. If it is to make an emulsion, then what I do is I stir the oil with guar gum well to distribute it evenly and then right after I add it to the water phase, continuously stirring. hello Evik. Need your help, We are developing a mild toxin free surfactant for babies using the below ingredients, – Decyl Glucoside (plantacare 2000)- 10% 2) What is the recipe for the cleanser? In 1968, it was approved for use in foods. To thicken a liquid with xanthan gum, first disperse it in another powder, use small amounts, and once in the liquid, mix well. – Disdoium EDTA We have tried multiple combinations but we are not able to remove lumpiness of Xanthan gum which is impacting the texture and homogeneity of shampoo , the viscosity is also a slight issue, I want to add a gum to beeswax to make I more sticky/tacky. Do I dilute and add the XG into the diluted paste? It’s a bit runny, but works really well. To emulsify smoothies: Add 1 tablespoon per 2 cups smoothie to blender before processing. Many thanks for being there!! – Potasium Sorbate Thanks again. I am hoping that the Xanthan gum can help the lotion feel less greasy and more like lotion without adding water and an emulsifier. Thank you, thank you, thank you. And stir in how long? Thank you for taking the time to answer. How does xanthan gum affect lather creaminess, especially uf I’ll also use fresh aloe gel ? For your liquid soap, I don’t think it will work long term, since sodium soap (bar soap) eventually separates from water. Hi Amergho – well, I just use as much as covers the xanthan gum and it still stays liquid. To stabilize whipped cream: Add 4 teaspoons to 2 cups heavy cream halfway through whipping. 20% oil But this powdery substance, which forms a gel when combined with liquid, is also terrific to have on hand for many other uses: A touch of it can help prevent coarse ice crystals from forming in home-churned ice cream, bring a luxurious thickness to gravies and pan sauces, stabilize whipped cream, or even emulsify smoothies and keep them lush and velvety for hours. a gel consists of solid particles (usually polymers) dispersed throughout a liquid. We have an practise of adding xanthan into acid for mixing but it is slightly unsafe… is there other way to mix xanthan gum .. cant add oil. Xanthan gum or arabic are not really going to help, since they depend on water. In contrast both xanthan gum types possess a much higher elastic modulus, even at the same concentration, resulting in highly elastic and firm gels. Thank you for sharing this info! Recently, I got quite a few questions from you on how to make a LUSH shower jelly. Moreover, with every dose the gel thickens and xanthan gum dissolves even worse. i am also stuggling with all the dont’s. This is the first time my xanthum did not lump up. which tend to be anionic by nature. works just fine. 🙂. By the way i still have some problems. Hi Evik, I hope this message finds you well, Now I’ll try your method and I’ll keep you posted. Hi pinakin, if you are mixing water-based product (I don’t know what it is you use) with oils, xanthan gum won’t help you. Hi Yaduvara, what you are describing maybe reason of incompatibility of some ingredients. please help me with the best natural thickener to use to achieve that. To replace xanthan gum, try using a mixture of one tablespoon of chia seeds with three tablespoons of water for every tablespoon of xanthan gum. Can you be more specific? I tried to dissolve gum guar in the oil. Mix together the xanthan gum with the aloe juice or distlled water. If you share the recipe, I could help with that. Thanks, again, – Georgia. I found if I use the hand blender that would do the trick but also if I put some Xantham gum powder into a squise bottle and leave it for a few days, that worked as well. I have already made my liquid soap and would like to add Xanthan gum to thicken it into a shower gel like consistency. ... flaking occurs. A gel scrub contains exfoliating particles which are suspended in the gel. 1. Increase speed to medium and process for 2 minutes. Now I am stumped. Evik! i just make it however i want, and then filter out the clumps using a standard kitchen sifter. Thank you..thank you….thank you. My question is if is possibil to find an suspending agent to make it suspend in oil. Xanthan gum, guar gum, hyaluronic acid, allantoin…. I’m thinking about selling my soaps at the farmers market, so I need to perfect them. What about peanut butter? To thicken pan sauces and gravy: Whisk in 1 tablespoon at a time per 1 cup liquid. Transfer gel to airtight container and refrigerate for up to 1 month. When adding to oils, you can heat your gum with oils first (do not overheat!) so XG can healp me to avoid sepration of oil..?? I’ve been searching for the answers you’ve provided here and am very grateful. Xanthan Gum . Ms Gothika – you are welcome 🙂 I know how you feel! and then heat the oils. I have just tried this method with oil, it works perfect. Can you add more methods?